Wow, you really come to appreciate a framework when you have to go back to an older iteration of a lanuage. I had to jump back into AS2 again and man you start to miss alot of the new time saving features that have come with new versions of the lanuage. I even found myself building an event Dispatching framework which pretty much mymics Flex's event framework. So I think thats a good measure of just how far the Flash player and the flex framework have come.